>>> it's impossible for me to express my sadness and my anger, frankly, over those terrible events. it's just hard to believe that a patriots day holiday, normally a time of festivities, has turned into a bloody mayhem. but i know how resilient bostonians are and i think a lot of you do, despite the fact it took us 86 years to win a pendant. i talked this week with friends and family up there, as recently as this morning, and the granddaughter of a very, very close-up porter and friend of mine through all of my political career is fighting to keep both of her legs. you know, boston is not going to be intimidated by this, but we're going to find out who did this.
>> joined now by " boston globe " columnist kevin cullen. you talk about how small a town this can be when it comes to stories like this. there's secretary of state who knows people who are involved in this, fighting these grievous injuries. your column points out that these firefighters when they got here the other day to get to the youngest victim whom we've all been talking about, martin richard, they knew exactly who this kid was.
>> yeah. and larry , i've always said that boston is the smallest big city in america.
>> yeah.
>> and i think that came through when i talked to -- guys from engine 7 and ladder -- tower ladder 17. and but what i think was so much -- so impressive about what they did is that they worked on their friends and neighbors but they worked on strangers the same intensity and the same care that they gave to people that they came through the door and recognized. but i -- i mean, one of these firefighters, i talked to him, he did three combat tours in iraq and afghanistan and he was treated for ptsd. and i asked him, do you think you need more treatment now? and he looked off and he said, probably. i worry about our -- i mean, we're in a stage right now -- i mean, there is so much attention larry today about whether there's an arrest, whether there's a suspect, whether somebody's in custody. and i have to be honest, as i walked around the back today, that just wasn't entering my equation. i was thinking about the victims. we need to bury our dead. we need to honor our dead. we need to take care of our wounded. and we need to take care of our first responders because when i sat in that firehouse last night, i saw it in these faces. and i saw it yesterday walking down the treastreet, a copy know, she had been up for two days and i saw it in her face, she saw things no one should have to see. and we need to take care of those people. and i'm -- i'm actually very happy that the president is coming tomorrow because i think we need this time. i think we need sort of a healing moment. we'll take care of the -- i have no doubt they will catch and do whoever did this. i have no doubt. and whether the obsession with it happening tonight to me misses the point. we will get this person. i think tomorrow's more important. i think -- i'm glad the president is coming here. i think the town needs it. and i've got to tell you, this is my town and i've never been prouder of my town. never prouder.
>> you know.
>> i'm having the same reaction you are. i'm following the investigation but it's not what i'm focusing on. i learned to play baseball in the same fields that martin learned to play baseball. all the same places. and i was walking through there yesterday, today, and that's what i'm trying to explain this to people outside of here that we're not obsessing on what's the latest thing that's come out because we do have, number one, a confidence, as you say, but number two, we are still in another process. this city is having a wake.
>> absolutely.
>> we're still at the wake. and we're not fighting. we're not looking at -- we're just dealing with this grief.
>> you know, larry , i think you know him, he passed away last year, a great guy name bruce bowen . i remember after he got made, the first thing he did was punish a political rival. he moved his office. the guy had a nice view, he put him in the basement. they had a big thing for him up at the apartment house , the mayor's residence. we went there back in 1988 . i go up to bruce and say, a brother finally gets the job and what do you do? you act like an irish paul. he said you know what, kevin, in this town, we're all irish by osmosis. and i think we are. and i think the irishness of this town is taking over in the sense that we'll take care of that stuff down the road.
>> right.
>> we have to take care of our dead.
>> right.
>> we have to take care of our wounded and we have to take care of our first responders. that's the stuff we've got to do now. leave that other stuff.
>> your father was a firefighter, my father was a boston cop for eight years or so and i think that's where our confidence comes from with what the process is going to be but we also know the first thing we have to deal with is these families and what they are going through.
>> absolutely.
>> we've got to go. two boston guys coming, we're out
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